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Hier werde ich euch in Zukunft Sachen präsentieren, die in Marvel Comics hätten passieren sollen, jedoch nie verwirklicht wurden.
Hier werde ich euch in Zukunft Sachen präsentieren, die in Marvel Comics hätten passieren sollen, jedoch nie verwirklicht wurden.
Wer hätte sowas für möglich gehalten?
Jedoch wahr und der Ubeltäter war kein geringer als Chris Claremont
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My intent was to have Sue [Storm] adopt Kitty, seeing in her a classic troubled teen on the verge of going majorly bad. She would sort of function as Franklins big sister. (Since nobody was using her in the X-Men, I figured nobody would mind me sliding her over to the Fantastic Four. My mistake. Boyoboy can Marvel editors be territorial!) So that plot thread crashed and burned, and then when I tried it in X-Men (2nd Series) #100, it crashed and burned, and then when I tried to launch Kittys mini series, that got approved, got an artist assigned to the project (Lee Moder) and then it got shot down, crashed and burned!
Ha, wußt´ ich´s doch! Claremont hat bei seiner X-Rückkehr versucht, alte Ideen aufzuwärmen! Das konnte man förmlich herauslesen..
Toll hingegen finde ich sein unermüdliches Bestreben, der Continuität gerecht zu werden und durch Cameos und intertitel-Crossover zu bereichern.
DAS beherrscht er wie kein Zweiter: Er hat die Übersicht (zumindest über das X-Universum) und spielt hervorragend mit den ganzen Figuren. Leider hat er mit den Stories dann nicht allzu viel Glück in letzter Zeit, aber die Figuren und ihr Spiel haben mir immer gefallen, beim alten Chris!
Gute Idee, vao!
Zum Glück wurde Claremont gestoppt! Er ist für mich generell jemand von dem ich keine neuen Sachen lesen muss.
Wolverine war also als Teenager angedacht und sollte gar kein mutant sein, sondern wie Spider-Man, bloss ein mutierter Mensch. Stellt euch ein X-Men Film mit Frankie Muniz als Wolverine anstatt von Hugh jackman
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Initially, not only was Wolverine to be a mutated Wolverine, he was also supposed to be a teenager, just like the rest of the X-Men! It wasnt until Dave Cockrum first drew Wolverine without a mask that everyone realized that Wolverine was not as young as the other X-Men. Said Wein, at the time, You just put thirty years on that guy.
In addition, according to Len Wein, The adamantium claws were [only] in the gloves when I first created the character. And the claws were retractable. They were telescoping, and they would fit back in the casing of the gloves.
As for the mutated Wolverine part, check out X-Men #98. A technician gets a reading on Wolverine that suggests he is not a full-fledged mutant. This was because Weins initial intentions were to make Wolverine an evolved wolverine, courtesy of the High Evolutionary.
Chris Claremont soon took over writing the book full-time, and he went his own way with the character, but imagine
what could have been?!?
(Wein quotes courtesy of The X-Men Companion, 1982)
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Archie Goodwin had to come up with a new character FAST.
In his rush, Goodwin ended up using the very origin that the X-Men writers had been cooking up for Wolverine! In her first appearance, Spider-Woman was an actual spider evolved by the High Evolutionary into a Spider-Woman, just like X-Men had planned for Wolverine
In fact, note that the last mention of this plot in the X-Men title was in late 1976, right before the creation of Spider-Woman!
So even though incoming Spider-Woman writer Marv Wolfman did not end up KEEPING this particular origin, once it had been used, no writer is going to use a secondhand origin!
wahrlich ein interessanter Thread! Grab ruhig weiter in den unendlichen, historischen Marvel-Gossip-Archiven!
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COMIC URBAN LEGEND: Joe Kelly and Steven Seagle originally planned on killing off Storm.
STATUS: True.
Writers Joe Kelly and Steven Seagle had a short, yet entertaining, run on the two main X-Titles in the late 90s, but perhaps their most memorable story was one they never got a chance to write.
The pair had planned a major storyline where the X-Men would face off against Magneto, for the fate of the very Earth itself!!
The X-Men were to wake up in a mutant concentration camp, only to discover that it is a demonstration by Magneto of what the world will be like soon if they do not intervene. Eventually, some members of the X-Men would be swayed by Magnetos rhetoric, even after he uses his powers to tilt the world on its axis (and threatens to do even more damage to the planet), so the team would be split over Magnetos war.
Ultimately, Storm would use all her powers to fix the Earth, but would die in the process.
As you might imagine, this story was considered a bit too much for the X-Office to handle, particularly the death of Storm.
Instead, once Kelly and Seagle left the book, a toned down version of this story was written by Alan Davis and Fabian Nicieza (with Magneto clone, Joseph, being the sacrifice instead of Storm - although I believe Joseph might have been a possible casualty in Kelly and Seagles story, as well).
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COMIC URBAN LEGEND: Robert Morales was going to bring Bucky back less than a year before Ed Brubaker ultimately brought Bucky back.
STATUS: True.
Robert Morales run on Captain America was troubled nearly from the start.
Morales was given the ongoing Captain America title on the strength of his Truth: Red, White and Black mini-series that he had written, depicting the story of an African-American precursor to Steve Rogers named Isiah Bradley.
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Morales first issue on Captain America was 2004s Captain America #21.
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Morales story were quite political in nature, including Captain America visiting Guantanamo Bay.
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Ultimately, Morales plan was to revisit an idea that was brought up in the aforementioned Byrne and Stern run (although, do note that the idea came courtesy of Roger McKenzie and Don Perlin, who considered doing it during their earlier run on Captain America).
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He was going to have Captain America run for, and actually be ELECTED, President, with the plan that he would be president for four years (perhaps four years real time).
Well, the problem was - while this was approved and Morales was already well on his way towards this story - it quickly hit a snag when the rest of Marvel editorial found out about it.
Ultimately, it was determined that no, Captain America would NOT be elected president.
Now, though, Morales needed a new storyline for his book, so it was determined that he would bring Bucky back!
Again, Marvel editorial argued over this turn of events as well, and I knows Tom Brevoort specifically was against the idea, so once again, Morales story was changed (this time, though, I do not believe Morales had taken any steps towards actually writing this story - please someone correct me if I am mistaken).
Morales run on the title ended with issue #28.
Soon afterwards, Tom Brevoort took over editing Captain America himself, and new writer Ed Brubaker told him his idea - he wanted to bring back Bucky. Again, Brevoort protested, but this time, his laundry list of concerns were addressed by Brubake to Brevoorts satisfaction, so Brevoort was willing to go along with Brubakers idea.
And, ultimately, the return of Bucky has been a good storyline for Marvel.http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/01/24/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-139/#more-14163
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COMIC URBAN LEGEND: Mark Gruenwald had to change the name of his 1980s Bucky character because of racial reasons.
STATUS: True.
Lemar Hoskins made his debut in Captain America #323, as a member of the Bold Urban Commandoes, or Buckies, for short, a bunch of enhanced meatheads who pretended to be enemies of John Walker - Super-Patriot.
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Later on, Walker was named to be Steve Rogers replacement as Captain America by the Commission on Superhuman Activities. Hoskins tried out for, and was granted, the role of being Walkers sidekick - Bucky to Walkers Captain America.
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However, this situation was not exactly well received.
Not only was it a bit weird to see a grown black man in the role of a teenaged sidekick, but (and here is the entry at the Urban Dictionary), Buck happened to be a slang term for a young black man.
So, unbeknown to Mark Gruenwald, writer of Captain America (okay, he probably should have known it was a bit odd to see a grown man in the role of a teen sidekick), he accidentally was treading on some sketchy racial grounds.
Luckily, Gruenwald quickly addressed the situation - in the comic, no less!
In Captain America #341, he had a backup story that dealt with it all, as Lemar went from Bucky to Battlestar!!
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Gruenwald even directly addressed the criticisms, with no spin in his favor, which was quite cool of him, I thought
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Lemar later ended up becoming a stalwart member of Silver Sables Wild Pack.
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He then faded into comic limbo for years, before briefly showing up during Civil War, where he was one of a number of unregistered heroes who were captured by SHIELD.
One thing I do not know, and Id be quite grateful if anyone happened to know of a source for this, is who filled Gruenwald in? I would imagine that letter writers must have brought it up, but perhaps someone at Marvel also noticed it? If anyone happens to know, Id be mighty obliged if you let me know!
Thanks to the Grand Comic Book Database for all this weeks covers!
Okay, thats it for this week!http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/01/24/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-139/#more-14163
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