Monatliche Verkaufszahlen: Top 300 Issues / Top 100 TPB's
Re: Amazing Spider-Girl bricht die Kassen
Da hast du dir aber viel Arbeit gemacht. Danke für diesen tollen Service.
Die Zahlen von Ant-Man und Criminal sind wirklich schlecht. Ich hätte auch gedacht, dass die #1s mehr verkaufen. Bei Criminal hat Brubaker aber in einem Interview gesagt, dass er mit den Verkaufszahlen zufrieden ist. Insofern denke ich, dass die Auflage bei dieser Serie nicht so hoch war.
Jetzt bin ich mal gespannt, wie nah du mit deinen Hochrechnungen an den richtigen Zahlen dran bist.
Re: Amazing Spider-Girl bricht die Kassen
Zitat: Optimus Jetzt bin ich mal gespannt, wie nah du mit deinen Hochrechnungen an den richtigen Zahlen dran bist.Ich auch (ich schätze ich liege im Bereich +/- 200)
Übrigens: Die Ghost Rider Zahlen sind imo SEHR positiv. Das bedeutet, dass die Serie beinahe ihr Niveau gefunden hat. Somit kann man mittelfristig mit monatlich 45'000 verkauften Ausgaben rechnen. Allerdings hoffe ich, dass die Corben Ausgaben nicht zuviele Leute abschrecken. Die Previews sind nämlich ausgesprochen übel.
Re: Amazing Spider-Girl bricht die Kassen
Criminal ist ein Erfolg, man muss es bloss mit den Zahlen von Sleeper vergleichen, selbes Kreativteam, fast selbes Ambiente
Zitat: Lamond Übrigens: Die Ghost Rider Zahlen sind imo SEHR positiv. Das bedeutet, dass die Serie beinahe ihr Niveau gefunden hat. Somit kann man mittelfristig mit monatlich 45'000 verkauften Ausgaben rechnen. Allerdings hoffe ich, dass die Corben Ausgaben nicht zuviele Leute abschrecken. Die Previews sind nämlich ausgesprochen übel.Das denke ich auch. Nach deiner Rechnung hat GR nur knapp 3000 verloren. Das ist schonmal wesentlich weniger wie in den letzten Monaten.
Die Corben Ausgaben sind allerdings etwas problematisch. Seine Zeichnungen gefallen mir überhaupt nicht. Und der Cover Artist ist auch nicht gerade geboren, um GR zu zeichnen. Aber ich sehe es positiv. Corben ist nach 2 Heften wieder weg. Dann kommen Tex&Saltares wieder.
Re: Amazing Spider-Girl bricht die Kassen
Zitat: Lamond Das bedeutet, dass die Serie beinahe ihr Niveau gefunden hat. Somit kann man mittelfristig mit monatlich 45'000 verkauften Ausgaben rechnen. Das wäre toll, ehrlich. Allerdings ist es für eine derartige Vorhersage imo noch zu früh. So was kann man eigentlich erst wirklich ableiten, wenn die Serie mal ein paar Ausgaben einigermaßen stabil bleibt. Noch ist die Serie ja offenbar im Fall, wenn auch freilich ein langsamerer Rückgang schon mal hoffen lässt. (Sorry, dass ich es nicht optimistischer sehen kann, aber ich hab schon zu viele gute Marvel-Serien scheitern gesehen. )
Zitat: Lamond Allerdings hoffe ich, dass die Corben Ausgaben nicht zuviele Leute abschrecken. Die Previews sind nämlich ausgesprochen übel.Ich befürchte gerade da einen gehörigen Fall, da die Serie doch imo sehr stark von ihren Zeichnungen lebt. Bzw. davon, dass die den Nerv einer Vielzahl von Lesern trifft. Denn erstaunlicherweise hört man bisher zu 99 % nur Positives zum Artwork, während man da bei der Story schon etwas uneiniger ist. Hoffen wir mal, dass sich das rumspricht, dass Corben nur diese 2 Ausgaben bleibt. Bzw. sollte ich wohl in einem gewissen CBR-Thread mal vorsichtshalber darauf hinweisen.
Sind das nicht auch Schätzungen auf der von dir angegebenen Seite?
Re: Amazing Spider-Girl bricht die Kassen
Yup, aber genauere Zahlen sind zumindest mir nicht bekannt.
Re: Amazing Spider-Girl bricht die Kassen
The CIVIL WAR crossover continued to sprawl across the Marvel line in October, but with the core book running late and other titles having to wait for it, there were several big names missing from the shelves. But every cloud has a silver lining, and with CIVIL WAR absent, some of Marvels other new launches had a clearer run. ULTIMATE POWER makes its debut, along with the latest version of ANT-MAN. The Max imprint continues its revival. The much-lauded CRIMINAL debuts under the Icon imprint. And the Dabel Brothers join the Marvel family, with their flagship title ANITA BLAKE.
Thanks in part to those new books, Marvel once again beat DC comfortably, despite missing some of their major books. In dollar share, Marvel take it by 37.8% to 34.2%. In unit share, its 42.7% to 37.3%. Closer than last month, but still a satisfying win.
Thanks as always to Milton Griepp and ICV2 for permission to use their figures for these calculations.
With CIVIL WAR absent, NEW AVENGERS takes the top spot with its fourth crossover issue. In fact, issue #25 was solicited for October, but the book is running a month late, presumably because its waiting for the core title to catch up. This issue is focussed on the Sentry, one of the less marketable Avengers, which might explain why the sales drop back a bit. Even so, its comfortably ahead of the titles normal range, which is pretty impressive to start with.
A second printing of issue #21 sells 12,286 copies to chart at number 138. As usual, the numbers are added in above.
The B-title continues to hold up extremely well, and piles on the re-orders. In October, Marvel managed to shift another 14,565 copies of issue #2, 13,710 copies of issue #3, and 3,147 copies of issue #6. Thats over 30K in re-orders alone, more than some new titles manage.
The final part of a six-issue CIVIL WAR crossover arc which has done very nicely indeed, thanks. After this, its a couple of months of transition while we wait for the new creative team and the fiftieth issue.
Theres a variant cover this month, although it hasnt made a tremendous amount of difference. ORIGINS continues to sell very impressively for a spin-off book, and once CIVIL WAR is out of the way, itll be interesting to see whether it can regain its lead over the parent title.
da kann man sagen was man will, aber nach 7 Ausgaben immer noch über 100'000 Hut ab.
10. ULTIMATE POWER 10/06 #1 (of 9) - 102,687
The first part of a crossover between the Ultimate universe and the J Michael Straczynski version of the Squadon Supreme. It makes a certain amount of sense - after all, theyre kind of the Ultimate Squadron Supreme. A huge debut number shows that theres a lot of interest in this - it outsells all of the regular Ultimate books, and it would have beaten ULTIMATES as well.
Hätte gedacht das würden mehr Leute kaufen, das Ultimative Universum ist wohl an ihren Grenzen gelangt
FANTASTIC FOUR makes an increasingly rare appearance on the shelves with another CIVIL WAR tie-in - and in fairness, it can blame the lateness of the core book for these delays. Sales on the crossover arc are holding up well, and the book is in a different league to its normal range in the mid-40Ks.
The X-Mens extremely tenuous contribution to the crossover wraps up, and issue #3 scrapes onto the bottom of the chart at number 300 with 1,492 re-orders. Great numbers, but it really does verge on abuse of the CIVIL WAR brand. This is a sequel to X-MEN: THE 198, which debuted with 68,698 and dropped to 48,139 by its final issue. CIVIL WAR: X-MEN has handily beaten those numbers, and its hard to avoid the conclusion that it did so on the strength of its virtually non-existent crossover elements. Then again, sales have held up fairly well by miniseries standards, so perhaps people who were drawn in by the hype stuck around regardless.
Still levelling out from the recent creative team change. This book is only a couple of thousand ahead of the previous range, so its not a clear winner like UNCANNY. But the creative change certainly hasnt done any harm.
A CIVIL WAR crossover arc, as if you hadnt guessed. Issue #22 picks up 4,645 in re-orders. Allowing for that, its actually almost level with last months initial orders.
Dropping back to the normal range after last months anniversary issue, although theres still a slight retention. Issue #100 picks up re-orders of 2,997.
This is the first in a set of CIVIL WAR filler projects, rushed onto the shelves to plug the gaps while the main series is running late. Basically, its a series of trailer stories for THUNDERBOLTS, ANT-MAN, IRON FIST and OMEGA FLIGHT, with a Howard the Duck story thrown in for good measure. Its somewhat similar to DCs ultra-cheap BRAVE NEW WORLD one-shot, and some readers have complained that Marvel should have priced it in the same way. But then, the BRAVE NEW WORLD books havent done all that well, so its not like DC got much return on their money with that idea. Marvel, in contrast, sell their trailer book for four dollars, and still make the top twenty. Hard to argue with, really.
The debut of Ultimate Cable, but since the character isnt the sales draw he used to be, I expect the main reason for the jump is the 75th issue anniversary. Marvel chucked in a back-up strip and upped the page count to mark the occasion.
Definitely dropping. This book seems to be in a long-term decline.
26. HEROES FOR HIRE 08/06 #1 - 84,006 09/06 #2 - 66,949 (-20.3%) 10/06 #3 - 60,770 ( -9.2%)
Another CIVIL WAR crossover. Weve yet to see how this book will do on its own, but its certainly had plenty of help to get an audience. Issue #1 picks up 9,639 re-orders, and issue #2 gets 2,953.
28. GIANT-SIZE WOLVERINE 10/06 #1 - 55,426
Basically a slightly arty Halloween special. A good solid number.
Bit of a stiff drop for issue #2, and theres a common theme with the X-Men miniseries - this one turns out to have very, very little Phoenix content. Its actually an origin story for the Stepford Cuckoos. Itll be interesting to keep an eye on this one, to see whether people drift away when they realise what it is. Issue #1 picks up re-orders of 1,779.
And the same applies here - back to normal after a variant cover. The year-long Planet Hulk story is performing solidly, although its nothing out of the ordinary for this title.
And people wonder why companies keep relaunching titles from issue #1. SPIDER-GIRL returns from the brink of cancellation yet again, this time with a shiny new issue #1 and a massive increase in sales. Bet theyre kicking themselves for not doing this two years ago. Theres a variant cover as well, but its fair to say that most of this will be a legitimate increase. The question is where it settles down, but its certainly got a fair chance to find a bigger audience this time. And of course, SPIDER-GIRL reportedly performs well in digests, which reduces the pressure on it the direct market.
Issue #0 also shipped in October, charting at number 70 with orders of 27,239. Its basically a recap book rather than a proper issue, so I havent included it in the table.
Die 0 und die 1 sind wohl die sensation des Monats :daumen:
Levelling out, and continuing to perform impressively when you consider its mainly C- and D-list cast.
42. DOCTOR STRANGE: OATH 10/06 #1 (of 5) - 40,280
Brian Vaughan and Marcos Martin take a crack at this problematic long-running Marvel character who, somewhat like Nick Fury, has carved out a role as a mainstay of the universe while struggling to find an audience as a solo character. This is a very promising start for the series.
Two rock solid books, each hovering within a very narrow range.
53. X-MEN: FIRST CLASS 09/06 #1 (of 8) - 39,859 10/06 #2 (of 8) - 33,688 (-15.5%)
A fairly normal second issue drop. Overall, this is doing surprisingly well for a miniseries set in the Silver Age - its beating some of the regular X-books with its second issue, which is unexpected.
Still falling, but in fairness, its stuck with an extended run of fill-in stories while it waits for regular writer Chris Claremont to recover from illness.
Now heres something unusual - CABLE & DEADPOOL returns to its regular stories after three CIVIL WAR crossover issues, and actually holds on to a chunk of its audience gain. Okay, most of the extra readers left as soon as the crossover finished. But an improvement from 25K to 30K is worth having. The book must have done something to hook the readers - most of the crossover titles have just gone straight back to normal afterwards.
Hmm. Another CIVIL WAR tie-in book which returns to normal and holds on to a big chunk of the audience, jumping from 23K to 29K. The common factor with these two books is writer Fabian Nicieza - does he have a knack for holding on to crossover audiences? If so, its arguably somewhat ironic that Marvel are giving the book an overhaul and a relaunch with Warren Ellis at the helm. Then again, chances are Marvel will still end up with a higher selling book by taking this route, so it probably makes sense at the end of the day. Issue #104, now in its second printing, picks up 9,758 extra sales.
sieht man nicht oft
62. IRREDEEMABLE ANT-MAN 10/06 #1 - 29,499
Not a good start for an ongoing title. But then, its Ant-Man - really, what did they expect?
Now heres something different - a Dabel Brothers book. Having picked up the entire DBPro publishing operation, complete with its collection of licensed characters, Marvel seems to be making a serious bid for the fantasy market. Considering that the company has often been criticised for its reluctance to look beyond superheroes, this is a major strategic shift.
This means I get to write about DBPros sales figures, which should be fun, because I know nothing about fantasy. Then again, it may not matter, because historically DBPro havent done much business on this chart. As well see later, historically theyve sold very, very low numbers in the single issue format. Four-figure sales are about the norm. So chances are theyll end up being another imprint, like the all-ages books, where I give you the numbers and then point out that they dont mean anything because the real sales are going on elsewhere.
But then again, ANITA BLAKE #1 has shifted over 28K. Thats an awful lot of comics by DBPro standards, and certainly a non-trivial quantity in the direct market. Perhaps their hook-up with Marvel will change their fortunes in this sector.
ANITA BLAKE is licensed from a series of novels by Laurell K Hamilton, and this maxiseries is an adaptation of the first volume, GUILTY PLEASURES. Hamiltons series is currently up to fourteen novels, with a fifteenth due in 2007, so theres plenty of material here.
Incidentally, this book got the dreaded Sold out at Diamond press release, which is one of my pet hates. As Ive explained many times before, selling out at Diamond is not much of an achievement because you set the print run after you get the orders. So normally, selling out at Diamond says more about the size of overprint than the quantity of orders. After all, were talking about a book that reached the dizzy heights of number 67. But then again, with ANITA BLAKE vastly outselling the normal DBPro range, this may be one where they really did eat up a sensible overprint. Look out for potentially big re-orders in November when the second printing hits the shelves.
This issue also has a variant cover. Its perhaps the least interesting thing about it, but I thought Id better mention it anyway.
Issue #1 has re-orders of 1,555, but that doesnt change the fact that this is a very steep drop, and its already awfully low for the second issue of an ongoing series. So far, this looks like its going to go the same way as every BLADE revival - down, and quickly.
2x ouch
73. HELLSTORM, SON OF SATAN [Max] 10/06 #1 (of 5) - 27,045
The Max imprint continues its new lease of life with this Daimon Hellstrom miniseries. With a minor lead character and no particularly well known creators, its doing about as well as can be expected.
Well, its levelled out, Ill give it that. But this is a very odd issue. Per the solicitation, it features the Black Panther and Storm visiting Atlantis. The solicitation, and the cover art, also promise the Black Panther fighting the Sub-Mariner. The actual story features nothing of the sort - instead, it turns out to be an unheralded CIVIL WAR crossover, leading into an upcoming CIVIL WAR tie-in arc which this book is only able to accommodate because the core miniseries is running so late.
Ever get the feeling theyre making this stuff up as they go along?
Anyway, the bizarre decision to ship a major CIVIL WAR tie-in issue without telling anyone, something lifted straight from the INFINITE CRISIS playbook, has naturally resulted in a sell-out. Theres a second printing coming, and look for big re-orders on this issue.
85. CRIMINAL [Icon] 10/06 #1 - 25,978
Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips creator-owned crime book makes a strong debut for this sort of title. Icon is basically a vehicle for creators under exclusive deals to pursue pet projects within Marvel, and so the success or failure of this book probably isnt of great concern to the company. Still, it never hurts to have a well-received comic in your catalogue, and the creators should be very pleased with this start.
verkauft sich zweimal mehr als sleeper, also ein eidneutlicher Erfolg.
Following the cancellations of NEXTWAVE and MARVEL TEAM-UP, this is now the lowest-selling Marvel Universe ongoing title. But incoming writer Joss Whedon will catapult it up the charts, so it has nothing to worry about.
As usual, the all-ages books do most of their business outside the direct market, so these figures are fairly academic. Strictly speaking theyre not an imprint (SPIDER-MAN LOVES MARY JANE is listed separately in the solicitations), but Im marking them as such for the sake of convenience.
Looking very much like a disaster, on the strength of these figures. Again, its difficult to imagine a Jack Kirby revival title doing much better outside the direct market. A cynic might observe that the problem with this book is that it cant actually offer Jack Kirby. All it can really offer is a cover version of his ideas, produced by lesser creators - and you could say the same thing about half the superhero comics in America.
Another book which does most of its business in the magazine market.
Number 228 is a Marvel Milestones book reprinting some 1970s monster stories, and it sells 3,334. And rounding out the chart, we have some oddities from the DBPro imprint
275. PTOLUS: CITY BY THE SPIRE [Dabel Bros] 05/06 #1 (of 6) - < 2,774 06/06 --- 07/06 --- 08/06 --- 09/06 --- 10/06 #1 (of 6) - 1,873
One of DBPros less glittering licences, this is an adaptation of a campaign setting for RPGs. They started running this miniseries back in May, shipped one issue, and then put it on hold while they sorted out their publishing operations. Now, Marvel have reprinted issue #1 as a prelude to finishing off the series. The reprint sells a whole 1,873 copies.
As for the original printing well, as I say, DBPro wasnt really about the direct market singles. PTOLUS #1 came out in the last week of May, but it doesnt seem to be on the May charts. I can only assume that thats because it missed the Top 300 altogether, in which case it sold fewer than 2,774 copies.
Another DBPro book in a similar position. RED PROPHET is an adaptation of an Orson Scott Card novel, and it shipped two issues before going on hiatus. The numbers above are for the two issues that made the charts. However, theyre both labelled Cover A on the chart, and theres no sign of a Cover B, so I can only assume it was listed separately and failed to chart. So in total they sold something, but not very much.
Rather than reprint the issues separately, Marvel have put out a combined reprint of issues #1-2. It charts at number 292, selling 1,617. Its probably fair to assume that RED PROPHET and PTOLUS wont be making a big impact on the direct market singles chart, even with Marvels backing.
Zitat: Vao Die 0 und die 1 sind wohl die sensation des Monats :daumen:Reden wir hier wirklich von Amazing Spider-Girl ? Mich haben die Zahlen der # 0 ja richtig erschreckt. Gibt es denn irgendwelche Vergleichswerte zu anderen "recap books", dass die # 0 dieser Serie so hervorsticht ?